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Sunday, February 10, 2013

Bug List

So it turns out that, at some point in the last 4 months, RAGS decided to disable all the item groups I had created, which is bad because a lot of loops in the game rely on those item groups actually working. Which is frustrating because it means I need to rebuild all those item groups (and there's a fair amount).

That, however, is why the tailor and the bookshelf, at least, are not working.

Here's the list of currently reported bugs and the issues with fixing them. I'll update this as bugs are fixed. For the record, I will not be able to do massive bug fixes until Tuesday night or so. 

1) Tailor and bookshelf "clean-up" actions are not working (problem with item groups getting broken). Note: This also breaks shoes.

2) Going naked to various locations works...but doesn't do anything (forgot to link the actual reactions, but warning, when this is fixed, you'll get kicked out of a lot of places).

3) Futa balls don't seem to be growing (this is an entirely different issue: if femininity is less than 50 and you have balls, you're supposed to have them shrink and then disappear. Drinking the powder drink again will boost that threshold to 75 and to 100 [always]. But the problem right now is that balls aren't disappearing when they should).

4) Going naked to the strip club traps you there (hooray, forgot about that check, derp).

5) Going to the convent gives a nice error about something not being processed correctly (Sister So[i]ph[/i]ia was accidentally deleted, and when I recreated her, I didn't realize I'd changed her name to Sister So[i]f[/i]ia, which causes all kinds of problems).

6) Phone no longer allows you to call out sick or take a vacation (I...don't even know).

7) You appear to maybe get stuck in the office at the convent-brothel? (Have to look into this, I might know why, but I'm not sure of the exact cause)

8) The model in the brothel doesn't seem to activate correctly. (Probably the same issue as number 7)

9) Crime doesn't seem to actually work (fun fact, partial nudity - like underwear - will never get you arrested, while full nudity will still take 25 days minimum).

10) You can go out nude regards of inhibition level (should requite either exhibition [for underwear], nudity [for nudity], or inhibition lower than 60).

11) Apparently, you can lose the option to have partners wear condoms (sounds like a variable problem).

12) Dragons can't view their unique traits (easy fix).

13) Dragons really should be able to call out sick if they're going to spend the whole day laying eggs (again, easy fix. Just for the record, the way this will work is, on a day when you're going to be laying eggs, at the beginning of it, you'll get the option to waddle to the living room to call out sick. If you have a sick day, you're fine, but if you don't, it'll be just like calling out sick when you don't have one normally).

14) Nudist trait doesn't seem to be triggering properly (I think I changed how exhibitionism and nudist work, but I honestly can't remember. I'll have to take a look at this to make sure it's working properly).

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15) Convent-brothel accounts don't seem to actually be accumulating any money (I am 90% sure I know what caused this).

16) You can work multiple times a day in the brothel, which is actually a terrible idea (I made a note to myself that I would have to include the "is it the end of the day" checks before the release...and then never did that! Actually an easy fix).

17) Choices that were made in the prologue (with the three girls) seem to get deleted for no apparent reason (this is actually kind of bad, since it does play into events when you meet those girls again).

18) Inhuman transformation stuff doesn't actually get cleared with the clear draught from the drug dealer (this is actually an entirely different problem, and may result in me implementing something earlier than I expected to).

19) Eye color still doesn't change during succubus TF (should be red, currently isn't, derp).

20) The "Sleep" option in the jail isn't showing up (I probably just forgot to activate it).

21) Mother Superior isn't leaving the church when she's supposed to be kicked out. What a bitch (probably forgot to move her to the void room).

22) Apply makeup after exercising doesn't properly check if your femininity is high enough to actually allow that (..huh).

23) The "leave by time" announcement for the brothel job is not showing the right time (Derp).

24) Bribing nuns does not correctly reactivate the exit and other actions (Herpaderp).

25) Style checks may not be working properly (this is likely due to loops and item groups).

112 comments:

  1. 6) Phone no longer allows you to call out sick or take a vacation (I...don't even know).

    I seem to remember having these options working on the striper job.... I'll test it later

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  2. I got stuck after Maria asked me to get the artifact for her. No way to leave the bedroom. I don't know if this has anything to do with it but after I got stuck, I closed RAGS to reload the game and it wasn't there anymore. Not my save but the 2/9 game download.

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    1. You have to read the 'slip of paper' that she leaves in the bedroom, in the middle of the containers, clothes and jewellery cluttering that little box on the screen. Fooled me the first time too.

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    2. Is THAT why people are missing it? Damn, I can fix that easily.

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    3. I feel like an idiot for missing the note. Sorry about that. Love the game.

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  3. 10) You can go out nude regards of inhibition level (should requite either exhibition [for underwear], nudity [for nudity], or inhibition lower than 60).

    What the fuck! I can't go out nude at all! Playing on the most recent update, fresh game, ground my inhibitions down naturally just in case it was the testing item fucking it up and I STILL CAN'T GO NUDE. How is everyone but me doing this?!?!?!

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    1. If you're loading a save file originally created with the last release, that'll happen. I had to start over to get public nudity to work.

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    2. Well, they said it was a fresh game. Stupid question, but you didn't mention it, do you actually have the exhibition or nudity traits?

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    3. First poster, where are you trying to go? Does it happen everywhere, or just certain places? What message are you getting?

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  4. Another possible bug regarding shoes, choosing to wear the "last shoes worn" locks to one specific type, wearing other shoes after the first time using the option doesn't change the shoes chosen by the "last shoes worn" option.

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    1. Hmm... interesting. For me shoes are broken much more thoroughly... as in I am only allowed to wear sneakers.

      I have every other set of shoes (thanks to an anonymous benefactor) but right clicking on them in the entry way to my apartment doesn't give me the option to wear anything but the sneakers... and when I leave I'm only given the option to wear ether sneakers or the pair I wore last (which happen to be the sneakers).

      Kinda hard to look elegant in a pair of Reebok. :-P

      I noticed no one else complaining about it so I'm not sure whats going on. Will tinkering with it again later.

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    2. That's actually a loop problem. Every single loop was broken at some point between the 9-20 release and this one. Should be an easy, if time-consuming fix, but it's part of #1. Updated the blog.

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  5. looks like you got your work cut out for you ^_^ looking forward to working realease ^_^

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  6. Hopefully there will be options to go to the beach without swimsuit or already wearing one (the whole going out naked and then putting on swimsuit on arrival is kind of ridiculous). "Get a tan" menu will have to be ajusted, too: option to tan naked added, the other two disabled in cases when no swimsuit is worn.

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    1. Hm, strangely, that slipped the net somehow. I'll make a note of it.

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  7. One more to add to the list, Nudist doesn't seem to be triggering, at the very least you can't give it to yourself with the testing device, which could just be an error with the device, or could be a problem with the perk itself created by the recent changes, I'll have to test nudist/exhibitionist pregressing actions more to be sure. Exhibitionist still triggers though.

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    1. Doesn't seem to be triggering at /all/? That could be problematic. I'll take a look at it.

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    2. I got the following message when I tried to go to the mall. According to my inventory, I was just wearing shoes:

      "You grab your purse before you leave, lock the door behind you, and head to the mall.
      As you leave your apartment, you feel your clothes rubbing against your unprotected body and can't help but smile a little..."

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    3. I should also note, that in addition to the above, I tried adding the nudist trait with the test item. Nothing appeared to happen and if it did, the new trait was not listed when I examined my character and listed all my traits. I do not know if that means the test item or the trait itself is bugged. Will try to get it the hard way and report back.

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    4. So, I got the Nudist trait the hard way. It actually shows up in the trait list. Nothing appears to change. When I leave the apartment, wearing only shoes, the game still says:

      "As you leave your apartment, you feel your clothes rubbing against your unprotected body and can't help but smile a little..."

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  8. On #11, is there supposed to be an option for a futa to wear a condom herself? I am not seeing that either.

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  9. Did anyone submit a bug report about Dragonesses not being able to view their 'Unique Traits' once fully transformed? Or the thing where (from my guess) Non-Cowgirls can't start some words that begin with m in some conversations (like with Brit or Genevieve)?

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    1. Also, this could possibly relate to the Phone being unable to call in sick or take a day's vacation, however no-one seems to notice if you spend the day (as a Dragoness) laying eggs, rather than go to work.

      As an aside, if/when this gets looked at, would it be possible to also have a chance of calling in sick when that event occurs?

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    2. Unique Traits not being viewable is...kind of weird, but an easy fix. The "m" words are because I was lazy and didn't actually finish that for certain things. Derp. Noted.

      As for laying eggs, noted. I can make that an easy fix too. I love easy fixes!

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    3. Much Obliged. Now if only the game's engine could be updated so it doesn't take 5 minutes to save or load! :P

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  10. I didn't see "Can't go to the mall" in that list. I started a new game but wasn't able to go to the mall to go shopping. It let me go to the other places (all the ones I tried) but not the mall.
    Good luck with the bug squashing. Isn't this MUCH better than corrupt nuns? lol

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    1. The mall bug should be fixed. The original version was broken, but I uploaded a new one about thirty minutes later. Try downloading again (it has the same file name, so delete the old file first).

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  11. Church ledger never seems to go over the initial days earnings.

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    1. That might actually be working as intended. The ledger is only supposed to report on your /base/ daily pay. It's the actions you take during the day that change it to your /actual/ pay. Base pay can change, but is very difficult.

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    2. I believe he is referring to the brothel account. When I work, the game says: "

      You also managed to add $0.4K to the business account."

      When I check the ledger it says:

      "The brothel accounts currently have about $0K, which you could spend on remodelling and other expenses."

      It stays at $0 even after multiple days of work.

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    3. One can also work multiple times in a day.

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  12. Here are some bugs that I noticed back in the 9-20 version: (I was mostly finishing up a save that I had from the that version)
    -After a while, the choices made in the prologue are cleared, and this can be seen by using Export State. This includes all 3 choices from the women and the names for both your male and female self.

    -The choices being cleared affects the Britney mission, as Maria's dialogue says how you failed with her, even if you didn't.

    -Becoming a Succubus doesn't allow you to get the Mistress trait (even though it gives Dom and Sad).

    -Becoming a Succubus doesn't give all the traits that it should (at least by what the wiki says)

    -Eye color doesn't change in any player description after becoming a succubus

    -Also, just wanted to test and see if any of the "in-human" traits carry over after clearing enough to become something else. Tried it with Cow then to Cat, which kept the udder (at least in milking), and removed all lowercase 'm's from any player dialogue. Then there was Cat > Succubus that kept 'Animal Heat' but that trait didn't do anything.

    So, those are just some bugs that I remember for the 9-20 version, and am not sure if any of them are fixed in the latest release.

    This isn't a bug, but with the monstrous pregnancies, if you give birth to a succubus while being one, it just seems strange that she keeps getting stronger, but no mention of the player also being one. Wouldn't nothing then happen between both of them?

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    1. Here's a few more bugs from the 9/20 (so might be fixed in the 2/9), but if not then here they are:
      I think these might be related to the choices being cleared since I have only seen this happening once that has happened:

      -Sexuality and Inhibitions seems to increase after loading a save sometimes

      -Succubi seem to be able to go much higher/lower than 50 on both Arousal (combined with items that should increase this, it just stays in the 40s) and Sexuality

      -Catnap can become broken, and then it will always say that you don't feel like it, even in the morning

      But, these are all within the last version, so no idea how many have been fixed.

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  13. Seems like there's no option to sleep when in jail, and choosing either wait or exercise options at late night don't work, so you end up stuck at that time

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  14. After using the "corrupt nuns" option on the test stick, Mother Superior seems to be stuck in the office. She cannot be interacted with, she just sits there, judging.

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    1. Watching. Waiting. Plotting.

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    2. Wow. Full points for referring to the 100% ending of a semi-obscure Gamecube horror title.

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  15. When meeting with your informant, does that reduce all suspicious to zero or just suspicion related to the brothel? Is there any difference between the two?

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    1. That only reduces the suspicion for the convent. There IS a difference: your personal suspicion is for any crimes you happen to commit (for the purposes of this number, running the brothel is not a crime), while the brothel's suspicion is actually how much evidence the police have built against your operation. If they get enough, they will conduct a raid and permanently close the brothel, and also throw you in jail for a while.

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    2. On a related noted, my character walked around wearing the fishnet dress a lot and did the 'hooker' jobs. Never obviously triggering any 'Crime & Punishement' consequences. I did this for a great many days.

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  16. Im looking forward to the fixed version, ive waited
    5 months so i can wait some more.
    keep up the good work this is the best rags game
    ive found so far.

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  17. This isn't a bug report, but just something I'm curious about. I totally missed all of the streams, so maybe it was answered in there, but why does the testing item only have the option to advance the Succubus Transformation and none of the others? Or did I miss something?

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    1. Someone made a requesst during the stream and AM put it there.

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  18. 2nd time i enter convent:
    'cant process condition check sophia already in room?
    check:CT_Character_In_Room - Sister Sophia - (random 999 signs cd-key here :P)
    then 2nd error - 'cant process command correctly. If you are the game author, please correct error in this command CT_MOVECHAR'

    I dont have any probs with condom check some1 reported; also, have you considered rising payments for jobs (its pretty much completely impossible to complete 1st quest and pay rent/not become starved junkie with anything but secretary job i think; not sure if intentional but feels kinda counter-fun);

    applying make-up doesnt require check when done manually / after excercise eventhough it gives 'youre not enough woman' when game checks for it after morning shower;
    thanks for keeping up good work ;)

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  19. Bugs seen:

    *could not replicate* When accepting the nun brother job the morning announcement told me to go in at morning not midday trying to leave for work at morning (correctly) gave the error that the nuns were not ready yet

    After bribing the first nun the exit disappeared and there was no option get to work on the ledger

    You can work multiple times in one day. If you work at night you do the job and time doesn’t seem to advance letting you work as many times as you want.

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    1. Clarification: You can work multiple times in one day AT THE BROTHEL. If you work at night you do the job and time doesn’t seem to advance letting you work as many times as you want.

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  20. Does inhibitions of 60 really make sense for going outside, nude? I would have expected "below 30" to go out without a trait that makes it easy, below "below 40" to go out without exhibitionism" and "below 70" to go out with the nudity trait.

    "below 30" means you just don't care.

    "below 40" almost means the same thing.

    "below 70" means you are comfortable enough with your body to let anyone see it.

    But I also think that the special outfit that Maria gives you should be correspondingly concealing (I remember it being essentially nude when you get below 50 or 60 inhibition if you are feminine and I think that that is too soon), so maybe I am not thinking about this right?

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  21. I'm not sure what they are called, but when you dress a certain way their were labels like "Lady Like", "Party Girl", "Whore"... Whenever you left the apartment it would show. Now it doesn't make reference to those, unless you are going to work. I'm not sure if they do anything, but it added a little to the story.

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  22. Had an issue while going about doing a regular Blogger route, where after a certain point(I'm not sure what caused it, exactly) my character stopped eating altogether, and I couldn't get the message about my health deteriorating to stop coming up even after toggling which food plan I went with. Had money to pay for it but still not sure what was up with it.

    I only had 1 promotion so far, I'd gotten only the "look down at tits" and futanari random events from walking, only thing I bought for the home was the Martial Arts DVD, I hadn't gone to the church or beach at all, and hadn't eaten in the cafeteria at the mall(though I probably should have tried that to fix it before restarting). Can't remember if I had used the cheat menu beforehand or if only after, to try to fix it.

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  23. For an update this big this is a pretty damn low amount of bugs, gratz on that.

    I got caught on the security cams while stealing the artifact, I deleted the footage but it backed up elsewhere. How long do I have before the cops knock down my door?

    Also.. this public nudity thing is going to kill me. I can't tell you how many times I forgot to get dressed in the last update and then the front door is all like:

    "PUT SOME CLOTHES ON YOU SKANK!" Then I am like "Thanks front door! That could have been bad huh?" then he's like "Happy to help!"

    Now I'll be out on the town and it will be like those nightmares where you forget your naked in public.

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    1. Man, have you even played the brothel? It doesn't bloody work.

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    2. I just died at your comment MisterH

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    3. Not yet on the brothel, but I kinda saw it coming. I kinda go into releases knowing that bugs are going to make them unplayable, so I tend to look at a release as more of a demo until the less buggy version is ready.

      And thanks for the support fatmanspencer, for added effect read the front door's line in Mr.T's voice.

      Also, is crime and punishment working for the artifact mission? If so how long before I get arrested?

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  24. [Confession Bear]

    The only thing I care about

    is Genevieve bugfixes

    [Confession Bear]

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    1. Ah! Exactly my point too. Are Genevieve date bugs fixed/planned date places completed?

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    2. What kind of question is that? Have you not been paying attention to the last five months of journals?

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  25. Is anybody having a problem with the powder that the drug dealer adds for ball? I select for him to add it and then when I so I don't want it he adds it anyways.

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  26. Add the Sex training and the ministry training to the bugged exits

    Also anything with Sophia, but that's probably bug 5

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  27. Bug with items messing up in nines has something to do with your outfit (wear, say work outfit and then change nylons to stockings, go to job, finish job, you end up WEARING nylons which randomly appear out of nowhere (=D) and your stockings are in the stripper stash. This is kinda annoying because you cant take them out of there without leaving another item (cant wear 2 socks) so they're stuck there till you come back waering nothing in that slot.
    There is also still bug with boots in there (i think partiulary strappy heels), cant figure out what exactly is causing it tho. Last i had problems with it boots actually disappeared from your house stash if they bugged in nines boot stash so you could just lose piece of equipment permanently (i think). Cheers:P

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  28. All in all.. a derp as you tried to rush and make us happy. DONT EVER DO IT AGAIN!

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  29. Don't know if anyone has mentioned this, or if it's even a bug, but after using the testing item to corrupt the nuns, when you go to work at the brothel, leaving the office for the main building of the church prevents you from returning to the office if you aren't dressed as a nun.

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  30. If I may say...I think all the bugs you've seen is one of the side effects of waiting so long for a release. Even the small step-wise release as you previously did. At least immediately brought things to your attention before you do so much coding that relies on the broken items which in effect break them.

    Don't take that as negative criticism to the game, I love it. Continue the good work.

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  31. When you've corrupted the convent, and the nuns ask what to call you, if you pick "Something Else" and then type in what you want, they call you "Something Else". I kept waiting for them to say "Wow, you really are something else," but they never did. One of these two things must be a bug.

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  32. A bug I haven't seen mentioned yet: If you lose your job, and then pick a new one, you can't use the Work action when you arrive at your job, but you can't leave either.

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  33. Well 4 months of no updates I'm not really surprised by massive bug spam. See it happen all the time with minecraft. They withhold updates (Usually right before a version full release) and suddenly spam a bunch of new stuff and tons of stuff breaks. v1.3 was terrible for it since they rolled over to the mp coding which was loaded with bugs to begin with.

    Kinda why I was hoping for more frequent releases so these kinds of bugs can get squashed before they get too big or too far into the past to remember what might be the cause.

    Aw well, happy hunting, wanna borrow my shotgun?

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  34. Some times you can't release something that's partially completed without a high likely hood of creating more problems than it solves. Also... no one wants 10 updates that are all "added xx to nun brothels... but nun brothels are still not actually playable."

    Proper comments in code alleviates the "forgot what I did" issue of going a long time between releases (and should be being done any way) but doesn't necessarily mean that the cause of a bug will be obvious or prevent you from forgetting something that needed doing before release.

    In this case I think it made sense to hold off on the update till it was essentially done. Personally I have no issue with the time it took to get the nun brothels working or with the amount of bugs. I'm looking forward to them being mostly fixed and I'm also looking forward to the random events for the brothel.

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  35. Not sure if this is Bug or Working As Intended....

    Walking around in Combat Boots raises Martial Arts Skill?

    Goth Girls Rule!

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  36. Probably a simple bug: Missing a maid job one day while having none scheduled for the following day resulted in a job alert appearing at the original scheduled time on that following day. After traveling to the job, pertinent text was missing up to the point of the tidy/properly/spotless dialog. Did not notice if there was pay or lack thereof.

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  37. how to fix when it says the game is unreadeble....?

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    1. First save the game to your computer, THEN open it.

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    2. You need to download RAGS Suite 2.4.0.0 to use the file

      Link is provided on the right bro.

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  38. A bug: when changing a nun's personal schedule or whatever, if you tell them to take a day off it switches to them taking it easy instead.

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  39. And all this is WHY you release smaller, more convenient, updates rather than 4-5month-old-GIANT-mass of an update !
    ...so you don't choke on bugs the size of TEXAS !!
    Sigh...

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    1. Like you have any clue about what the hell you are talking about.

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    2. Oh look, somebody who knows how to do it right. I suppose this means you will be making a game soon.

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    3. I have 20 yrs of experience of professionally writing software and I agree with Nova25.

      It is one of the main reasons Agile Software Development methodologies have become so popular in recent year.

      By releasing small sets of changes you make it easier to debug those changes, and less of a problem for your end-users.

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    4. I have 25 years years of experience professionally writing software and I think the poster above me is nuts.

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    5. I have over 20 years of experience buying and playing video games and I'm sick and tired of developers being lazy shits (and/or publishers being money-grubbing, impatient assholes) and releasing broken betas that need to be fixed in the weeks after release to not crash every five minutes.

      That being said, I'm sick of people doing that when I'm PAYING for a product that is required by law to be "as described and fit for purpose".

      In this case, we're pretty much participating in all the stages of the game. The privilege of getting your hands on it right now (rather than when it's all done) is that of a beta tester/bug hunter.
      Yeah, AM could release it in smaller packages, but then, every kind of change and addition can and will create new bugs, especially when incompatibilities come up, so I doubt that the amount of time spent on a release has any direct influence on the proportions of the bug - Stuff like RAGS fucking up the item groups isn't his fault.

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    6. I am the father of modern digital computing, and I died in 1995.

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    7. You didn't "pay for a product", you donated to a private individual without a written contract for either goods or services.

      A private individual, making a porn game, on their own time, with a job and life to balance besides.

      Stop acting like children.

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  40. Wow... people are really whiny for something they should be grateful for that is being provided free. Sure there are bugs, what do you expect? Bugs happen, get over it.

    Being tight little twats isn't going to encourage him to spend time fixing bugs. Doesn't help him localize bugs faster if you don't provide him with detailed information on the bugs either.

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  41. I'll say it again. Some changes cant be released in small chunks.

    All of you need to realize, and as I'm sure the (supposed) developers who have commented are aware, that this is *not* a beta game. It is an *alpha* game. The difference is that a *beta* is essentially complete and only lacks bug testing and tweaking... while an *alpha* is missing content and features from the intended final product.

    The difference for updates is that, when introducing an entirely new feature of significant size it is not feasible to release small updates. Sure he could have made a release as each nun became corruptible... but as he made changes to each nun it could just as easily break the existing nuns. As he moved from the corruption to the brothel part he could find himself hamstrung by earlier work... forcing further re-writes of existing code... and potentially leading to formerly stable sections of the game developing new bugs.

    When you are introducing an entirely new mechanic to a game you do *not* make small releases. You make one large one when the feature/mechanic is essentially done... and then make small changes as you add additional content or fix bugs. To do otherwise could very easily generate considerably more work and result in more bugs over all.

    And no... there is no major development house that disagrees with what I've said. Major additions to mainstream games come in the form of DLC and Expansions which are developed to completion, beta tested privately and separately, beta tested publicly and separately, and only *then* released to the public for general use. Major additions to new programs are handled similarly... only its not called an expansion pack... its an called entirely new version available at full price.

    No one is forcing any one to upgrade to the latest version. You *choose* to. If any one is making a guinea pig out of any one it is yourselves. 9/11 is relatively stable and will remain so indefinitely. If you choose to upgrade to 2/9 then that is not much different than signing up to try out the latest expansion for WoW before it even hits the test servers.

    Don't want the bugs? Then wait for the next release before upgrading. Don't want to wait? Get the latest and deal with the bugs. Want to have your cake and eat it too? Too bad. Life is full of disappointments.

    Etherway... stow the bickering. No one gives a crap how whiny you are and we really can do without a demonstration.

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  42. This bitching is getting really old guys. If I was AM I would be thinking "Why should I continue this project for a bunch of ungrateful gits?" This is a free game. He doesn't owe you a damn thing. AM will get it running if you show a little patience and gratitude. If I were him I might not come back at all, just let you all stew and never show my face here again.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he rushed this out because of all the bickering that was going on that last few weeks about how long its been taking. Maybe if you climbed off his ass he could have made a more polished product? Not saying that's the case but its something to think about.

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  43. //NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN TESTED. So it might not work properly. I will be doing bug fixes, prioritizing game breakers as they come in.

    Edit: I would not be surprised if there's a bunch of stuff that's either broken or overlooked. It happens. Also, RAGS apparently developed a habit of shuffling command lines and some command lines just plain not working. So document them all in the comments, and I'll get a bug fix release out as soon as possible.//

    Pretty much says it all, thx for making a great game btw man and keep up the good work.

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  44. Busker job is working well with only one possible quibble: Each performance uses three available skill points which I assume are going into at least one new skill which is currently not viewable. If they are going into one skill only, then there may be a problem with the points use or the cap on that skill. In almost two months game time 80-90% of new skill points have been used by these performances. (Just in case there are separate skills for the different musical styles, I have been using the 'rock' selection at least 90% of the time.)

    A second question: Is it possible to get fired from the nude model job? Stopped going to that one about four weeks ago game time.

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    1. How does one go about getting the busker license?

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    2. Use the telephone to call City Hall to start the path.

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  45. ~Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows,
    Everything that's wonderful is what I feel when we're together,
    Brighter than a lucky penny,
    When you're near the rain cloud disappears, dear,
    And I feel so fine just to know that you are mine.

    My life is sunshine, lollipops and rainbows,
    That's how this refrain goes, so come on, join in everybody!

    ...Just trying to lighten the mood. Besides, the fixes won't take too long (especially compared to the time it took to actually update it, so chill.

    Oh, Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows...

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  46. Hey, if I wasn't unemployed I'd send some appreciation AM's way. Like some others have said, this and ToDC are among the finest RAGS games out there. That fill this particular niche that is. I haven't tried out other... uh... genres so I can't comment too much.

    But yeah, keep at it AM, we (kinda) have your back! :3

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    1. He or she is probably referring to "Tales of the Drunken Cowboy". I've actually never got it to work but I hear it's very good. :/

      Anyway, here's a link for the homepage I found for it.
      http://mdqpgames.blogspot.com/

      There you go. ;) Tell me if it's any good. ^^'

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  47. This is the major problem with the RAGS engine. I'm still working on my game and everytime I leave/open it, I have to check to be sure that every single link is still in it's place.

    So far I never had problems with the auto-save, but it happened to me a couple of times now, when I quit the ''game'' and I tell RAGS to save the changes, it fucked up and I had to re-work some of the links.

    So AM don't go thinking you're the only one with this problem. :)

    Anyhow, try to have fun!
    Cheers!

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  48. was wondering with the update why the 2-9 version is smaller than the 9-20 version when there is supost to be content added. Can someone explain this to me?

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    1. It's most probably because of the things that got deleted, by RAGS i think

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  49. The problem where you get trapped in the back of the convent is probably related to either the progression of time (since you can do it multiple times it doesn't recognized that it's not "Night" on the second go around) or the script for girl training not being turned off so you can control stuff again. Those are the two events that put me in trapped mode without fail.

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    1. This was commented on earlier.

      You get trapped if you:
      * bribe the girl
      * do the sex training
      * do the ministry training
      * do anything with Sister Sophia

      did you notice anything different then that?

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  50. You should really add a "go home" option to the testing item to help people not lose their progress as often.

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  51. So...how's it going?

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  52. stuck in prison cell. Wont let me sleep to the next day

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    1. Read the post, you idiot.

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    2. Hey now, there were several dozen words in that post. Let's be realistic... ;-P

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  53. I'll have to wait for the bug fix to play this, too many things are not working. But I am looking forward to it. I noticed that it said the nuns could get pregnant. Playing a while did not change anything. Are their pregnancies in realistic game days as well? Or is it just another thing that isn't working?

    Anyway, best of luck to you, theres a lot that needs to be done.

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    1. Ah yes . . Waiting for the bug fix before playing . .

      Oh the endless cycle . .

      woe is me . .

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  54. Since the bug patch nothing is working. You have to wait another 6 month for another shit patch. An endless cycle

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    1. What bug patch? Do you mean the update that added a lot of content (then clearly stated that there could be bugs)?

      Stop bitching, there will be an update that fixes the bugs.

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  55. Shut up. All of you. This guy does you a favor by making a free game that you can all play. You want to see a game done the way you want?
    Fucking make one yourself.

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  56. From AM in the forums:
    "Item groups got completely fucked up for no reason at all. I'm still trying to figure out how to fix it (it was not as easy as I was originally hoping). This has broken every single loop in the game, include shoes, jewelry, tailoring and the bookshelf."

    I wish he published this info in the homepage though. At least that would explain why the bug fixes are taking so long.

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  57. when i search my shoe rack, there is a shoe (strappy heel) that i didnt buy. it prompts me to buy it. when bough they can be selected to go outside fine.
    other shoes are still not ok....

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  58. happy fixing, i'm just gonna wait until the fix before start playing.

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